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Post by Trublu on Jan 27, 2009 17:10:23 GMT -5
It seems everytime I turn around, someone else is "bisexual". Most of the time, a girl has kissed a girl for some guy's enjoyment. I don't get how the meaning of the word has gotten to be so convoluted, especially in the media.
Thoughts?
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Post by Bard Child on Jan 28, 2009 22:35:26 GMT -5
Because men enjoy domination over women, seeing women kiss others even if they don't really have any interest seems to give men power and women like subjecting themselves.
Also telling a guy "oh I am bisexual" is a great way to get into his pants apparently.
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Post by Gethsemane on Jan 29, 2009 3:04:22 GMT -5
That's a misandrist statement, Bard Child, and one that seems prejudiced against women as well.
To make a bit of a blanket statement of my own, I think your average hetro guy who enjoys women kissing each other does so because it's hot. I believe I've read someone say that it's great because you have TWO women instead of one, and no other guy to get in the way of the fantasy. Pretty uncomplicated ;) and not innately bad. Yes, it is entirely possible for there to be sexism involved in the situation - heaven knows sexism seems to be everywhere - but men aren't some kind of hive-minded demon :/ they didn't choose to be born in their position of priviledge any more than women chose to be born out of it.
Anyway. I do agree about the getting in pants bit. With some straight girls who want straight guys I think it's pretty much:
1) I want guys to find me hot
2) Guys find lesbians hot
3) Lesbians don't get with guys
4) Bisexuals do what makes lesbians hot but also get with guys
5) ???
6) PROFIT
Know what I mean? (Of course there are also genuine bisexuals who hide behind "I'm just pretending for the guys"...)
I don't know the meaning of the word has got convuluted, just ... bastardised? Trendy-ised perhaps?
That, and there seem to be a fair amount of people who don't understand what bisexuality is - or that it actually exists, for that matter. You know, like people thinking that being bi means you have to be with both a man and a woman, or that you automatically want to, or that you're going to cheat in any relationship you're in because of that. And the whole invisibility thing. It's all a bit messed up.
I get more angry at people who are bi for show than I should. I just ... auugh. I've watched those girls flirt with each other before and it was HARD. Because they were being open and having fun in a way that I wish I could, but can't, because I can't just escape by saying "I'm pretending" (well, I could, but I coudln't live with myself if I did). I have to stop and think about if I want to come out and worry if there are 'phobic people around me because if I come out by acting queer I'm committed to that for better or for worse. So ... basically, I think I'm jealous. Yes I hate that they might be giving real bi girls a bad name and making it harder for us to convince people that it's a real orientation. But when it comes down to it I think I most passionately resent their freedom, even though it's totally fake.
It may be cool to be a fake bisexual, but I don't think it's cool to be a real bisexual. Especially for guys!!
I had to stop going to online bi groups because it was so sodding depressing. All the stories about prejudice everywhere from both straight people and gay people. I went from being like "yay I enjoy more people and have more potential partners to choose from" to "OH MY GOD what do I have to look forward to D:"
Edited a billionty times for clarity, and deleted an accidental double post.
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Post by Bard Child on Jan 29, 2009 11:11:08 GMT -5
Wow good job! For being a hypocrite! You smited and chided me over a "misandrist" statement you go and make misgyoistic statement EL OH EL. GOOD JOB this almost calls for a macro.
Now you could defend that the statement wasn't prejeduced to girls just like my statement isn't predjeduce to men. But you and I both no that defending something and justifying it will only make us look like dumbasses, hence why I didn't.
But I sense you are special, so go ahead and TL;DR my words and would gladly laugh at your attempt on jusicfication.
We're pretty clever for not being born into a "privledge position."
What was the quote that one LJer used. "Being Bi is like being in No-Man's land?"
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Post by Trublu on Jan 29, 2009 16:41:43 GMT -5
Guys, if we can't have courteous discussion of this, I will lock this topic and start warning people.
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Post by Bard Child on Jan 29, 2009 23:59:42 GMT -5
Hey I'll back off if she will.
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Post by Trublu on Jan 30, 2009 0:53:40 GMT -5
Hey I'll back off if she will. I was speaking to everyone in general; this place isn't a place for name calling and hateful language. Continuing with a "I will if she will" is not necessary; everyone will not continue posting the hateful language, period, no need for distinctions in public of who started what, where, when, why. |
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Post by Terry on Jan 31, 2009 9:10:11 GMT -5
I don't speak of those who call themselves bisexuals in general, but I think many straight people during their teens go by bisexual as if it were an item of clothing. Labeling oneself as bisexual is perhaps just another form of teen rebellion for many.
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Post by edwardjh on Jan 31, 2009 10:38:18 GMT -5
I dislike "chic bisexuality", as I see it as nothing more than attention seeking. It's usually hard to tell when someone is a "chic bisexual" though. When people keep "changing" their sexuality every 2 to 3 weeks, back and forth (as one acquaintance of mine did), it does arouse some suspicion.
With that said, however, I do believe most people are - to greater or lesser extents - bisexual. Though "straight" people will have a very, very strong attraction to the opposite gender and that "gay" people have a very, very strong attachment to the same gender, I strongly oppose the notion of a set number of preferences.
Sexuality, like gender (in non-biological terms) is a wide spectrum.
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Post by Gethsemane on Feb 5, 2009 19:32:06 GMT -5
Sexuality, like gender (in non-biological terms) is a wide spectrum. I totally agree. Have you ever read that story "Blue Day"? I think that's what it was called, anyway, it was a long time ago when I read it ... a kid's fairy godfather or somesuch made everyone gay turn blue for a day. If that was extended so it wasn't a clear cut blue-or-not but instead shades of colour indicating where on the continuum everyone was ... well I wouldn't necessarily want it to happen but I think it sure would be very interesting! |
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