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Post by Trublu on Jan 16, 2009 8:12:22 GMT -5
Lately, my college has really been pushing towards "gender neutral", as in gender neutral bathrooms (which we now have on campus) and now we're working on gender neutral housing. I'm really glad that we're doing this on our campus, and I hope other campuses and establishments take the hint and start providing them as well.
What are your thoughts on this, and how do you think we help this to happen?
Also, if you're so inclined, what problems do you forsee for things like gender neutral housing, and how do you think we can address them?
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Post by Terry on Jan 16, 2009 8:38:38 GMT -5
I didn't quite make out from your post, Trublu, on whether these "gender neutral" option is another option, or the only?
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Post by Trublu on Jan 16, 2009 11:00:11 GMT -5
For the restrooms:
What was implemented were two gender neutral bathrooms on the ground floor of the residence hall; anyone can use these bathrooms, but they are the only two bathrooms.
As for the housing, though: it would be an option that would have to be specifically requested by students living in the residence halls, and it would only be a certain number of floors. Nobody would be forced into it, and it wouldn't be available everywhere (at first, depending on demand, anyway).
But that is the way it would work for us, it could be different for others elsewhere. Did that answer your question?
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Post by James on Jan 16, 2009 12:18:47 GMT -5
I have heard about these before, and I'm not sure what to think about it. I don't really see the point of having extra bathrooms for transgender people, I think that if you are male then you should use the male, even if you are transgender.
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Post by Terry on Jan 16, 2009 12:31:47 GMT -5
I don't have anything against transgender people, but I think there should be an extremely high demand for these things for them to be put up. I do think it's nice that it's able as a request in some areas, but the "old fashioned" options shouldn't be sacrificed for it.
And a lot of people who are not transgender might find it uncomfortable to have gender neutral bathrooms. I know I'd feel a little weird running into a man when I went to a public restroom.
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Post by Trublu on Jan 16, 2009 20:02:38 GMT -5
I don't have anything against transgender people, but I think there should be an extremely high demand for these things for them to be put up. I do think it's nice that it's able as a request in some areas, but the "old fashioned" options shouldn't be sacrificed for it. And a lot of people who are not transgender might find it uncomfortable to have gender neutral bathrooms. I know I'd feel a little weird running into a man when I went to a public restroom. It's single service, so you wouldn't be running into anybody. It just eliminates the uncomfortable choice that transgenders are forced to make for something as simple as going to the bathroom. The are also in high demand... by an entire community in fact. I have heard about these before, and I'm not sure what to think about it. I don't really see the point of having extra bathrooms for transgender people, I think that if you are male then you should use the male, even if you are transgender. But if someone was born male but is transgender, that is the point... they don't identify with males, so to be forced to use the same bathroom because of an organ... they shouldn't be. It's easy to make the accommodations, so why not.
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Post by Terry on Jan 17, 2009 10:42:43 GMT -5
I don't have anything against transgender people, but I think there should be an extremely high demand for these things for them to be put up. I do think it's nice that it's able as a request in some areas, but the "old fashioned" options shouldn't be sacrificed for it. And a lot of people who are not transgender might find it uncomfortable to have gender neutral bathrooms. I know I'd feel a little weird running into a man when I went to a public restroom. It's single service, so you wouldn't be running into anybody. It just eliminates the uncomfortable choice that transgenders are forced to make for something as simple as going to the bathroom. The are also in high demand... by an entire community in fact. Then I think I misunderstood you there. If it's single service, I don't see a problem at all. And if the demand is high, then steps need to be taken, I agree. But I don't think it's necessary to take steps like these for two or three people.
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Post by renebean on Jan 19, 2009 11:40:53 GMT -5
My only recommendation with gender neutral bathrooms would be more than one. Because think about it, the line for using the bathroom is long enough, especially when you're a girl. So if there were only two single service bathrooms then the lines would be extra long... so necessary to have more than one or two... at least in my opinion.
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Post by edwardjh on Jan 29, 2009 17:49:07 GMT -5
I think it's a great idea. I don't know when nor why there is such a strict idea of "gender binaries". On a biological level there is male, female, and mixed/neither and on a social (intrapersonal and interpersonal) level, there is a near infinite spectrum.
Gender neutrality is a good thing, in my eyes. It should more more readily implemented and in doing so, so much social stigma will be reduced.
Of course, I do think there should be a few "traditional" one-sex restrooms available too for those who wish to not be near the other gender when going about their business.
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Post by ellens on Jan 25, 2010 11:30:32 GMT -5
As long as you don't have both sexes in a bathroom , I see no problem . The issue seems to be of modesty here and I would perhaps feel uncomfortable in a bathroom being halfway through a typical transistion with members of the opposite sex in at the same time . I think the word " Optional " is the way to approach this delicate situation here ......
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